Bookmarking & browsers

At the meeting yesterday someone, I believe it could have been John, asked how you could move bookmarks from one browser to another. It’s a good question, and I’ll try and answer it below, but perhaps an alternative answer is even better and that’s what this post will also address. But first, exporting and importing bookmarks for the common browsers.

However Microsoft has been changing it’s browsers quite a bit over the past couple of years. Internet Explorer was phased out for a bespoke re-write which was called Edge; this in turn was then completely re-engineered to use the same Chromium platform as Google Chrome, Brave and others, which was called NEW Edge. Confusing eh!?

Internet Explorerread this article [Internet Explorer 11 was the default browser for Windows 10, but you may find that it’s been replaced in one of its automatic upgrades by Edge]. For all older versions of Internet Explorer including ones for versions of Windows older than Windows 10 – you might like to look at this article.

Edge – if you’ve got the NEW Edge browser rather than the old legacy EDGE version (which should still be on your machine, as should Internet Explorer 11, if you’re running Windows 10) – this is probably the easiest way of exporting your bookmarks/favourites from a Microsoft browser. Alternatively you should look to see how you can run Internet Explorer if you’ve got the OLD Edge installed on Windows 10. Then you could use the notes above for Exporting from Internet Explorer. Alternatively upgrade either of them to NEW Edge and use the first link in this paragraph to export your Favourites. Simples!

Note: Exported Microsoft Favourites (Bookmarks) are stored as .htm (HTML) files.

If you’re using Brave this article explains how you can Import and Export Bookmarks.

There must be a better way, and there is! You could use a third-party application such as Evernote, which can not only store Bookmarks, but also whole articles through the installation of a Browser Extension which allows you to “clip” content to a “note” in your Evernote datastore held in the cloud. Evernote has long been a favourite piece of software of mine and I pay an annual subscription to get an extended service from it, but there is a really good free version which you can use to trial it and see if you like it. The screen shot shows that you can save the whole article, or just part of it. [One great feature is that it only saves the article, not the additional content, sidebars, panels, etc which often hold ads.]

Alternatively, you could use a Bookmark Manager such as diigo. Again this sits as an extension in your Browser and every time you want to save the link to a website, you click on the diigo extension, and perhaps add some tags to help you find the site at a later date …

… and after pressing Save Bookmark, it saves the page with a brief excerpt …

Finally there’s Pocket which combines bookmarking with a facility for offline reading of webpages. This used to be a great feature when trains didn’t have good WiFi and you could catch-up on your reading, but it’s still a very useful way of storing web content for reading away from the Internet and it’s the way I store all articles that I come across that I’m going to use in Computer Group meetings. Again, you can install a browser extension for all the major browsers that makes it very easy just to click on a webpage and it’s immediately saved and synchronised to any device that has Pocket running on it.

Looking at the bar in the browser above (Brave) you can see icons for LastPass, Pocket, Feedly, diigo, Evernote, AdBlock Plus, GoFullPage (full page screen shot), Push to Kindle, and Flipboard plus the extension to open the Extensions Library. Of course the screen shots for an Android or iOS device would be different; these are just taken from a browser running on a desktop or laptop.

Extensions are really neat, BUT only install ones from the Extensions Library of your Browser. Generally Chrome Extensions will work in Brave. That’s probably a topic for another post at some later date.

Notes from Zoom meeting – 18th June 2020

I’ve learnt my lesson from last week and am writing up the notes immediately. First a set of topical points/issues, and then a report on “What we do with our computers”.

Paul reported that he’d been experiencing Gmail opening, closing and then re-opening when using a browser on Windows? Is this a Windows thing, a browser thing (Chrome), or what? Owen was also experiencing it (but Renee on a Mac using a browser wasn’t). Owen undertook to investigate. Paul also asked whether anyone knew whether there was any advantage in responding to the request to Archive when prompted from Photos, or Mail on Google. I promised to look into this.

Renée reported that her Zoom meeting (one including participants from Italy) had been a great success. She wondered whether being “upgraded” to be given more time, when she thought she was only going to get 40mins was a standard thing. Group members seemed to think that maybe this only happened on a first call, others seemed to think if there was less than 3 participants the “upgrade” was standard; others thought the “upgrade” to more than 40mins could happen at any time – perhaps this is a factor of what the demand at any time might be?

Owen commented that some Zoom meeting hosts had implemented Mute participants on entry when it was a talk (History Group). I discovered that I could Mute All at any time – if I wanted. We’re all learning about this new technology!

Stella was still investigating a dongle, or method for connecting her TV to headphones using BlueTooth. We talked around the issue, resolved that if the BT version was higher than the device version, it should work; but then decided that actually what Stella required was a device similar to the one that Paul/Jim had researched for Marilyn – Paul suggested this one back in October (the Search facility in WhatsApp actually works!!!). I wrote then “I did a bit of googling on the bus on the way home, and all I would (probably stating the obvious) say is that what you should be looking for is a device that attaches a Bluetooth TRANSMITTER (or one that handles both Transmitter and Receiver states) to the Headphone Jack” and I sent this link to Marilyn in addition to the one Paul had sent.” In the meeting Phil suggested that Stella also look at this page.

Phil told us about a website he’d created for a Music application. You can see it, and try it out from this link. He also told us about the book he’d just finished – Teething Troubles – and which was available in eBook and print (from Amazon). More information about it is to be found here. He also invited us to use the quiz he’d prepared for his family, which is available on his website here with the answers here. He also thought you might like to see this from twitter.

Ann told us about her need for an Office application as she had misplaced her licence key for MS Office. She’d looked at Google Docs and OpenOffice but because she thought the documents were always stored in the cloud (they aren’t) she’d taken out a subscription to Office 365. I suggested that she looked at LibreOffice –  a successor to OpenOffice, and one that works better with PDF and .docx files (imho); it has the following components – Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress (presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base (databases), and Math (formula editing) all of which (to the best of my knowledge) are compatible with Microsoft’s packages.

Don told us about the positive experience he’d had using software from Wesley Media to attend an ex-colleagues funeral. When working on a tablet he was able to pinch the image to feel more intimately connected to the ceremony; something he couldn’t do on his laptop. He also reported that he’d tried using Brave, but had been a bit disarmed by the security controls which also incidentally prevented the software just mentioned from running on anything other than Chrome. I reported that this was quite normal and that some pieces of software are written just to run on particular browsers. Although Brave uses the same engine as Chrome (called Chromium) developers write code for specific browsers and so I often found I needed to use Chrome after I’d also tried it first on Safari (for the Mac). I also reported that I’d read some good reviews on Firefox recently, and this one too, and this might be an alternative to Brave if the security controls were too restrictive.

Christine reminded me that she was still researching a TV replacement and looking at 4K. The advice remains the same, it has to be a large display to make 4K useful and worthwhile. Also the quality of the display is related directly to the price you pay. Whether a less-costly option, such as Cello, is worth looking into – I wouldn’t like to say [Amazon]. My criteria would be as little SMART as possible (use a secondary streaming device, eg NowTV or Roku, or Amazon Fire, or Google Chromecast); as many HDMI ports as possible; optical output for sound (if you want to connect to a soundbar, AV system or HiFi) and the correct display size for the room – not in that order!! She also enquired whether anyone had used Jitsi Meet for video-calls. I said I hadn’t but I thought sticking with something I knew, Zoom, would suit me for the time being. I did say I would look into it though, as I would look into Cello.

We then had a general discussion about what applications we used on our computers.

Jim used some photo-editing software (Paintshop Pro, and ImageGlass – which was looking promising). He was a Fb user and used Flickr a lot as well.

David H valued the computer for access to online newspapers and apart from the Office applications he also used it for shopping and banking. He was a born again LastPass user!

Christine used her computer for general organisation – meetings, searches etc as well as buying/selling on Gumtree/eBay, printing labels and genealogy.

Don also used his computer for genealogy and printing (including labels) as well as the office apps and banking.

Ann (aside from her iPhone/iPad) used the computer for backing-up photos and music, ripping CDs, and doing office apps (eg accountancy). She particularly enjoyed watching the video content from the Hay Festival on her laptop.

Phil has an involvement in his websites, and uses Fb and twitter – which he said was valuable in times of crisis – I’m sure he has a keen and acute Fake News detector employed!He does online banking. We talked about the risks of online banking because Ann wouldn’t do it. With the recent enhancements to the web browser access to banking, it was probable that there was little difference in safety between mobile apps and the web browser access method.

Stella enjoyed music and DVDs on her machine as well as buying and selling. She also liked to be able to read foreign (Italian) newspapers which kept her in touch with events there.

Marilyn used her machine for photo-editing and had an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription. She watched quite a lot of YouTube videos to further her knowledge of photography, and followed a Welsh duo-lingo course online.

Sianed used her computer for banking, duo-lingo French and some proof-reading of documents sent to he by her children.

Owen was rarely far away from his computer with the U3A website, Beacon administration, Zoom administration and Writers Group internet presence to manage … but he did find time for Fb and banking!

Renée had discovered Zoom to be a pleasurable experience with friends and bookclubs. She loved the fact that you could attend conferences and take part in webinars without having to travel to London! She was also enjoying being taught IT by her grandchildren – Giffy. Another online banking user.

Paul did most of the above but enjoyed using the internet for researching prospective purchases. He also told us about a Dutch news aggregation site – DutchNews.nl which looks rather interesting.

And me … websites, photography, banking everyday (takes seconds and I remember the credentials to login because I do it all the time), researching (RSS reader – Feedly), bookmarking research (Pocket), publishing (Flipboard), music (iTunes -> Apple Music), etc etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Updating Browsers etc

Once a week I check to see if my Chrome and Firefox browsers are up to date, and occasionally they will install an update.  Maybe that would happen automatically, I’m not sure, but it’s nice to know they are up to  date.  To do this I click on About Google Chrome or About Firefox, which are both in the Help menus.  The Firefox menu is via a tab at the top of the page, the Chrome one is via the three dots on the top right.
This also applies to updating other programs, by the way.

Another Windows 10 Update / Internet Explorer

This update apparently was because I’m using an old version of Windows 10 (?!), which won’t be supported after November (?! again).  Once again I had a hint one was on the way, because a few times last week I lost control of the cursor, presumably as the update was being downloaded.  It was finally installed this morning, taking about an hour.
On another matter, a member of the Photography Group had some trouble logging in to some sites, and finally took her laptop in to the shop she bought it from.  It turns out she was still using Internet Explorer as her browser, which is now past its ‘use by’ date.  She is now using Firefox, (but as we know, other browsers are available).  Does that help anybody?
 

"Just google it …"

Something I’ve only just recently become aware of is that people don’t know the difference between Google and an internet browser. Now this is a spectacular success for Google (the company) and drives their revenues up a lot, but means that users are potentially missing out on a lot in terms of their internet experience so this short note attempts to address that balance, albeit in a very small way!

How did this come about? Well principally because Google introduced an app for the iPhone and other smartphones and tablets called (unsurprisingly) … Google. It presents in a nice easy to use interface a way of searching for information on the internet – that is how Google started after all, which is how they also managed to corner the term for searching the internet – “just google it”. [You don’t hear many people saying – “just bing it”, or “just yahoo! it” – in fact in the case of the latter they just gave up and decided to use the Google search engine and ditch their own one.] So … at a stroke, new users to digital devices thought that the way to connect to the internet was through their “Google” app.
No, no – there is another way that presents you with so many other possibilities and no, no – you don’t have to restrict yourself to using just Google as your search tool. [In an earlier post I described some experiments with using DuckDuckGo and other search engines and I will return to that subject at another time.] So … what might you use?
Well even using Google’s Chrome browser is better than using the Google app on your smartphone or tablet. It probably uses the same software  “under the hood” based on Google’s Open Source Chromium code base but it does offer the possibility of adding extensions, and allowing the use of alternative search engines.
But what else could you use? On my iOS (Apple mobile devices) I tend to use Apple’s Safari browser. On my desktop/laptop I tend to use Chrome, or Firefox (another Open Source project) from the Mozilla Foundation. Then there’s Microsoft’s Edge – supplied with Windows, or Opera (a lean,  clean browsing machine), or I could be really radical and use something like Brave (and I am) which doesn’t track my browsing history … but I’ll leave that for another day, and for another post.
For today, the message is simple … don’t use the Google app as your main internet browser, just use it if you want to for simple searches. Find a browser you like and use that … and maybe even choose which search engine to use, it doesn’t need to be Google – I’m using Chrome with DuckDuckGo as I write this. You won’t regret making a change to your internet browsing/searching experience – believe me!