Notes of Hybrid meeting – 10th November 2022

A well-attended meeting with some first in-person attendees – welcome Lynette, Yvonne, Janet, Ossie and Peter, and welcome also to Kate, Sue and Mo who were experiencing Zoom attendance for the first time. Please excuse me if I’ve forgotten a welcome. Admin was never my strongest point.

So, I started off with introductory remarks which were a pretty close repeat of those from the previous meeting, so I won’t repeat them – look here for them.

I quickly looked at the Notes from the previous meeting and mentioned the issues raised by Ian, John Mitchell and Anne which I’d added as Topics – look here for them. I hope to put more of these replies/answers/responses to members issues in Forums from now on. It’s what I created that area to do.

I also encouraged members to download Signal, create an account and then let me know their mobile telno. so that I could add them to our Computer Group on that platform.

We then turned to News and Jonathan and Paul had added some very interesting articles to the Flipboard magazine which I urge you to take a look at. Anyone can add to the magazine, just click on this link to become a Contributor.

Any problems with getting on Signal, or becoming a Flipboard contributor, please let me know.

Two issues that were raised at the last meeting were the process of getting photos from your phone to your computer, and Google settings. The technology let me down whilst trying to demonstrate the former, so I’m written up both topics as blogposts which will appear as soon as possible.

I indicated that Security and Privacy would be an issue I would cover in the next meeting.

So we turned to members’ issues:

Paul advised us that 192.com kept personal detail about us if we used the service (an online equivalent of Yellow Pages) which we might wish to be removed. [I’m not sure this will worry too many of us as you have to create an account and then pay a minimum of £15.99 for 6 searches.] Paul please correct my unerstanding, if I’ve got this wrong. He also told us that TalkTalk were raising their prices again and he now had to pay for UK calls, which he hadn’t had to before. He finally commented on the articles he’s added to Flipboard and suggested we might be interested in the ones on Privacy – storing cookies on phones (Android???); and the ability to track parcels (currently only in the US).

Jonathan told us about the articles he’d added to Flipboard on Windows 10/11 security and cleaning-up a Windows 11 machine which had improved the performance of his laptop remarkably.

Margaret told us that she’d been experiencing a strange failing with her Tiscali email service in that it appeared that it was not being consistently sent. It’s worth noting that Down Detector is a good place to start if you’re having problems with your Internet Services. I haven’t researched the problem in detail, but searching this site may be helpful. [Tiscali is now part of TalkTalk.]

Yvonne reported that her laptop was running slowly – I didn’t write anything else down here, so can’t add anything. Sorry!

Lynette told us that she’d been disturbed by her machine (Windows 10) not being able to be closed down because it was doing clean-ups. This may be related to an upgrade being done by Microsoft [these are done on Tuesdays] which had not been completed. I always advise not to set upgrades to be done automatically. I definitely am not saying, “don’t do upgrades”, but I am saying “do upgrades when you want them to be done”.

John Mitchell bemoaned the fact that he was being pestered with requests to switch to Edge as the default browser. This is of course a nuisance, and I thought that there was an option when the pop-up was shown to request that it not be shown again. [I could be wrong, here!]

Stella was upset that she didn’t seem to be able to transfer recordings that she’s done off her TV on to her PC, as she’d been able to do previously. Paul reminded us that we’d touched on this before and that recordings from TVs are now tied to that TV, and are not transferrable. [I also mentioned with little confidence that she might try formatting her media as FAT-32.]

Jenny enquired whether any member had experience, and could recommend, any sources for refurbished equipment. I expressed the view that I was very sceptical of the value of refurbished equipment unless it was backed-up by some guarantee/warranty , but others remarked that some public bodies regularly released surplus (or redundant) equipment to the public which might be usable. [I’m not convinced.] She also asked whether she should be concerned about a) the amount of memory that apps take up on a phone, and b) how “secure” they are. My reply was – very little, and that they were increasingly more secure because of biometric security and the transition towards FIDO.

Don mentioned something about internet browsers, but again I haven’t written enough down to remind me what it was [Duh!!]

Janet enquired about when items deleted, actually got deleted. Members responded that this was something that could be set in Preferences/Settings, but that you can go into the Trash Can/Bin and delete individual or groups of files at any time. She also enquired about whether she needed to buy internet security software. The group was supportive of my response that Windows Defender is almost certainly adequate for those in our situation.

Renee reported that VirginMedia were really annoying her with the latest “upgrade” they had done to “improve” her broadband. I told her I (as I always do when upgrades are being offered) was waiting for a while before I upgraded [you need to switch the router/hub off and on] She also shared that she’d encountered a situation with photos disappearing from WhatsApp. I advised that this was a feature that was set by the person sending the photos, and applied to messages as well. Signal also had disappearing messages that you could implement.

Anne bemoaned the fact that Windows 11, that she’d been forced to move to having upgraded her Windows 7 laptop, was not intuitive. I offered the opinion that this was a common issue especially as you get older. We want things to stay the same, and just get on with doing the stuff we know how to do. It is for this reason that I hope to do some sessions on the changes to what you can do on your phones, as I’m well out-of-date in my knowledge here!

Notes from Zoom meeting – 18th June 2020

I’ve learnt my lesson from last week and am writing up the notes immediately. First a set of topical points/issues, and then a report on “What we do with our computers”.

Paul reported that he’d been experiencing Gmail opening, closing and then re-opening when using a browser on Windows? Is this a Windows thing, a browser thing (Chrome), or what? Owen was also experiencing it (but Renee on a Mac using a browser wasn’t). Owen undertook to investigate. Paul also asked whether anyone knew whether there was any advantage in responding to the request to Archive when prompted from Photos, or Mail on Google. I promised to look into this.

Renée reported that her Zoom meeting (one including participants from Italy) had been a great success. She wondered whether being “upgraded” to be given more time, when she thought she was only going to get 40mins was a standard thing. Group members seemed to think that maybe this only happened on a first call, others seemed to think if there was less than 3 participants the “upgrade” was standard; others thought the “upgrade” to more than 40mins could happen at any time – perhaps this is a factor of what the demand at any time might be?

Owen commented that some Zoom meeting hosts had implemented Mute participants on entry when it was a talk (History Group). I discovered that I could Mute All at any time – if I wanted. We’re all learning about this new technology!

Stella was still investigating a dongle, or method for connecting her TV to headphones using BlueTooth. We talked around the issue, resolved that if the BT version was higher than the device version, it should work; but then decided that actually what Stella required was a device similar to the one that Paul/Jim had researched for Marilyn – Paul suggested this one back in October (the Search facility in WhatsApp actually works!!!). I wrote then “I did a bit of googling on the bus on the way home, and all I would (probably stating the obvious) say is that what you should be looking for is a device that attaches a Bluetooth TRANSMITTER (or one that handles both Transmitter and Receiver states) to the Headphone Jack” and I sent this link to Marilyn in addition to the one Paul had sent.” In the meeting Phil suggested that Stella also look at this page.

Phil told us about a website he’d created for a Music application. You can see it, and try it out from this link. He also told us about the book he’d just finished – Teething Troubles – and which was available in eBook and print (from Amazon). More information about it is to be found here. He also invited us to use the quiz he’d prepared for his family, which is available on his website here with the answers here. He also thought you might like to see this from twitter.

Ann told us about her need for an Office application as she had misplaced her licence key for MS Office. She’d looked at Google Docs and OpenOffice but because she thought the documents were always stored in the cloud (they aren’t) she’d taken out a subscription to Office 365. I suggested that she looked at LibreOffice –  a successor to OpenOffice, and one that works better with PDF and .docx files (imho); it has the following components – Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress (presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base (databases), and Math (formula editing) all of which (to the best of my knowledge) are compatible with Microsoft’s packages.

Don told us about the positive experience he’d had using software from Wesley Media to attend an ex-colleagues funeral. When working on a tablet he was able to pinch the image to feel more intimately connected to the ceremony; something he couldn’t do on his laptop. He also reported that he’d tried using Brave, but had been a bit disarmed by the security controls which also incidentally prevented the software just mentioned from running on anything other than Chrome. I reported that this was quite normal and that some pieces of software are written just to run on particular browsers. Although Brave uses the same engine as Chrome (called Chromium) developers write code for specific browsers and so I often found I needed to use Chrome after I’d also tried it first on Safari (for the Mac). I also reported that I’d read some good reviews on Firefox recently, and this one too, and this might be an alternative to Brave if the security controls were too restrictive.

Christine reminded me that she was still researching a TV replacement and looking at 4K. The advice remains the same, it has to be a large display to make 4K useful and worthwhile. Also the quality of the display is related directly to the price you pay. Whether a less-costly option, such as Cello, is worth looking into – I wouldn’t like to say [Amazon]. My criteria would be as little SMART as possible (use a secondary streaming device, eg NowTV or Roku, or Amazon Fire, or Google Chromecast); as many HDMI ports as possible; optical output for sound (if you want to connect to a soundbar, AV system or HiFi) and the correct display size for the room – not in that order!! She also enquired whether anyone had used Jitsi Meet for video-calls. I said I hadn’t but I thought sticking with something I knew, Zoom, would suit me for the time being. I did say I would look into it though, as I would look into Cello.

We then had a general discussion about what applications we used on our computers.

Jim used some photo-editing software (Paintshop Pro, and ImageGlass – which was looking promising). He was a Fb user and used Flickr a lot as well.

David H valued the computer for access to online newspapers and apart from the Office applications he also used it for shopping and banking. He was a born again LastPass user!

Christine used her computer for general organisation – meetings, searches etc as well as buying/selling on Gumtree/eBay, printing labels and genealogy.

Don also used his computer for genealogy and printing (including labels) as well as the office apps and banking.

Ann (aside from her iPhone/iPad) used the computer for backing-up photos and music, ripping CDs, and doing office apps (eg accountancy). She particularly enjoyed watching the video content from the Hay Festival on her laptop.

Phil has an involvement in his websites, and uses Fb and twitter – which he said was valuable in times of crisis – I’m sure he has a keen and acute Fake News detector employed!He does online banking. We talked about the risks of online banking because Ann wouldn’t do it. With the recent enhancements to the web browser access to banking, it was probable that there was little difference in safety between mobile apps and the web browser access method.

Stella enjoyed music and DVDs on her machine as well as buying and selling. She also liked to be able to read foreign (Italian) newspapers which kept her in touch with events there.

Marilyn used her machine for photo-editing and had an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription. She watched quite a lot of YouTube videos to further her knowledge of photography, and followed a Welsh duo-lingo course online.

Sianed used her computer for banking, duo-lingo French and some proof-reading of documents sent to he by her children.

Owen was rarely far away from his computer with the U3A website, Beacon administration, Zoom administration and Writers Group internet presence to manage … but he did find time for Fb and banking!

Renée had discovered Zoom to be a pleasurable experience with friends and bookclubs. She loved the fact that you could attend conferences and take part in webinars without having to travel to London! She was also enjoying being taught IT by her grandchildren – Giffy. Another online banking user.

Paul did most of the above but enjoyed using the internet for researching prospective purchases. He also told us about a Dutch news aggregation site – DutchNews.nl which looks rather interesting.

And me … websites, photography, banking everyday (takes seconds and I remember the credentials to login because I do it all the time), researching (RSS reader – Feedly), bookmarking research (Pocket), publishing (Flipboard), music (iTunes -> Apple Music), etc etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TV choices, and Getting into the Web – Mar 14th 2019

Boot-up
Google’s apps to help the hard of hearing [Ted, Jim, Martin]. Unfortunately (and as I clarified at the meeting) – it’s not possible for me to check every link for accuracy or relevance. All I can do is point you in possible directions. I will only make recommendations when I actually use the software, or hardware, that I write or talk about. Thus it’s unfortunate that Ted wasn’t able to test the apps referred to in this piece from the previous meeting. One because it wasn’t in Google’s Play Store, the other because it required a more recent Android device than the one he had. Such is life! Martin however brought in some information that I found on the Internet as well, and I’m pleased to be able to provide the link here.
Jim, has also installed Live Transcribe on his Android device and states that it works surprisingly well …
Mesh networks [Paul]. Paul was so impressed in the process of doing his research he even ate his own dog food and purchased a system. He’s going to discuss it, and other ways of improving your home WiFi in the session he’s going to lead on March 28th.
Any other member issues?
Well … David Hughes’ impassioned plea for guidance on buying TV systems, was met with much agreement so I’m going to do a session on that next time, as well as a bit more on websites – following on from todays’ session.
Jim thought I’d not explained a couple of things particularly well last time, in particular I perhaps didn’t distinguish clearly enough the difference between the Internet and the World Wide Web. This is almost the same problem as distinguishing between a Search Engine and Google, or as I think you all know now – the difference between a Browser and Google. Such is their dominance of the use of the Internet. So as Jim has stated in his Comment under the notes of the last meeting – the Internet is just a wire, or a radio signal; it’s the medium of communication; it’s essentially hardware. However it’s useless without applications to run on it, and there’s a plethora of those, as you well know! These applications need protocols to transmit the information across the physical medium, ie the Internet. The most ubiquitous application is the World Wide Web which has made use of a number of protocols in its development, but which now is almost universally using HTML (with programming add-ons such as Javascript, Ruby on Rails, etc etc – don’t worry about these!).
I was negligent in not showing you what an HTML representation of the webpage looked like – I just showed you the Mark-up created by the application I was using – WordPress – an intermediate stage in creating the HTML. To rectify that, here’s an extract of HTML from the same page I showed you …

… we’ll pick-up the story later on!
News
Best Android Apps on the Google Play Store
The world of USB changes to follow Apple’s lead – USB-C and Lightning
There’s another browser that doesn’t get mentioned a lot, but it’s been around for quite a while – Opera – here’s some tips and tricks, and here’s some more.
Response from Google to Australian government’s thoughts on restricting their default browser use of their search engine in Chrome browser.
Zuckerburg (Facebook) plans to create a ‘privacy-focussed’ world.
Adobe is finally killing Shockwave.
What Google knows about you.
Save the Webhelp Tim Berners-Lee.
Digital TV
I think it’s going to be best if we leave this as a discussion session, with each and all of you chipping-in and sharing experiences. I will lead-off with a few comments – some provocative maybe, and some guidance – hopefully not provocative! Then I’ll leave you with a plethora of articles and links which I researched for the last time I did this session about 12 months ago.
What size of TV do you need?
What is Smart TV?
Do you need a Smart TV?
Freeview or FreeSat?
Is the built-in Smart TV provided the best way forward?
Do you need a TV at all, or could you just use your laptop/tablet instead?
What do you need, do you really, really need?
My notes from the last time I did this session …
You don’t need a Smart TV – OK
A couple of weeks ago I shared a link in our Flipboard magazine [NB you need a Flipboard account which you can create from this link – http://flip.it/3.ybs4] to a post which suggested that you don’t need Smart TVs
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/buy-roku-not-smart-tv/
… and this article is even more troubled by Smart TVs and even suggests you should switch off their functionality because they might be spying on you …
https://www.howtogeek.com/176392/smart-tvs-are-stupid-why-you-dont-really-want-a-smart-tv/
In preparing this session, I came across this article from The Guardian from last year …
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2016/sep/08/can-i-still-buy-a-dumb-tv
… admittedly there are not many!! You can be assured however, if you go for one of these you won’t be buying something (Smart) that’s not better provided by a standalone set-top box from your Telecomms provider (Virgin, BT, etc etc), or the new range of add-on boxes which I’ll discuss later.
So we’ll  start with the three Free-to-Air services
FreeView – https://www.freeview.co.uk/
FreeSat – https://freesat.co.uk/
YouView – https://www.youview.com/ – but not available from Virgin.
All of these offer multiple channels and for the first two you might find your TV already has a tuner which supports one, or the other, or even both! Since their original launch these services when bought with a set-top box have other services added including recording and playback, and streaming of Internet content, eg Netflix.
Streaming services
The new one on the block so-to-speak is NowTV which starts with the offer of streaming Sky Channels without the need for a subscription, but for only a little more in cost can also add the FreeView channels, and more.
Here’s a comparison of the NowTV offers – http://www.nowtv.com/best-tv-boxes – click through from Devices Tab to see their boxes rather than just sticks.
And it comes with some really attractive introductory offers (which I’ve taken advantage of)
But that’s not all, NowTV also comes as an app to add to other platforms as well, as we’ll see a little later, and just note that the Now TV devices are “powered by Roku” – that’s a name we’ll come back to!
What are the alternatives to a NowTV box?
Here are some reviews of media streamers that are worth reading …
http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/gadgets-tech/tv-entertainment/best-tv-streaming-boxes-sticks-reviews-sky-sports-netflix-apple-amazon-fire-google-chromecast-a7185261.html
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/best-streaming-video-player-1275853
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/digital-home/16-best-media-streamers-2017-uk-best-media-streamers-you-can-buy-3580569/
… and then there is …
Amazon Firestick
Google Chromecast but maybe not the  Chromecast Ultra ???
… and if you choose Apple TV (4th generation) you can load Apps onto it to tailor your viewing options, including the NoWTV app, which also allows you to watch on up to four devices …
… the list of devices supported by NowTV is quite impressive …
http://www.nowtv.com/devices
You want to record and playback as well as watch?
These reviews are a good place to start …
https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/digital-tv-boxes/best-digital-tv-boxes
https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/best-freeview-boxes-recorders-tv-2017/
Ending with this …
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs-entertainment/1405950/best-freeview-box-2017-the-best-set-top-boxes-for-viewing-and-recording
… which bring us back to NowTV boxes again, which are built on the Roku platform
https://www.roku.com/en-gb/index
… and which should benefit from everything Roku do in the future.
What other alternatives are there to watching streamed digital content on your TV?
Well the most obvious one is to use your PC/Mac as the TV and use software on the PC/Mac to record Free-to-Air content. You will need a digital tuner for the PC/Mac to get the content. The best known company in this area is Hauppage and you can see a list of their products here …
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/products/prods.html
There are other companies in this field but I can only vouch for Hauppage. I once installed a card in my Windows PC, and I still use a USB Tuner with my MacBook Pro to watch TV.
Postscript. The DIY streaming solution – Plex server
I’ve known about Plex for quite a long time but have never done anything about it. I’ve used iTunes essentially as a media server built around a MacMini that sits under the TV with all content that I can record from Get iPlayer Automator and my media that I’ve digitised including my CD collection, as well as the streamed versions downloaded from iTunes/Amazon.
I hate iTunes with a vengeance. I spend countless hours sorting it out – admittedly I do have a rather complex way of sharing my iTunes media and libraries but I also just know there must be  better way. Perhaps, now’s the time to try Plex.
So I set about a project to install Plex on the MacMini (which I’ve just upgraded with a new SSD drive, an extra 4Gb of RAM and an install of the latest MacOS – High Sierra. Here are a few links to show you my direction of travel.
Plex now lets you stream and record live TV—if you have an antenna and tuner
How it works
Working with my Apple TV and Sonos
And I’ve signed-up for a lifetime subscription to Premium services so that I can …
Record free-to-air content … I’ll let you know how it goes!!
I forgot to mention new display technologies from LG/Sony/Panasonic called OLED, and Samsung – QLED. This article explains what these are.
https://www.howtogeek.com/327047/whats-the-difference-between-oled-and-samsungs-qled-tvs/
I also didn’t touch upon curved screens, nor 3D. I’ll leave those up to you!
Other links (useful if you have an online Which? account)
http://www.which.co.uk/reviews/internet-tv-boxes/article/recommendations/which-best-buy-internet-tv-boxes
http://www.which.co.uk/reviews/pvrs-and-set-top-boxes/article/recommendations/which-best-buy-pvrs-and-set-top-boxes
Some more links to make you think and help your choices … maybe!
Best TVs of 2019 ????
Watching Sky TV without signing-up to a long-term subscription service
If you’ve got a Mac you can download programmes from ITV Hub and BBC iPlayer and keep them forever using Get iPlayer Automator
Then there’s TVCatchUp – watching TV “on the go”
OLED, QLED, 4K, Curve-screen and more – notes from the last time I did this topic, here and here (two different links).
Postscript …
And now (with a Roku device) you can also use Apple’s Airplay. as well as control it with your Amazon Echo (if you have one) …
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/control-roku-using-amazon-echo/
Getting into the Web
Creating a website, the easiest way possible, using WordPressGetting started tutorials.
Let’s setup a website in WordPress, that you can all play with. We’ll call it CFU3APlaySite, I’ll create a single user (who will be an administrator – so you’ll have all the powers to do anything and everything with the site – even delete it!) called DIHU3A, with the password Ca3rdyddU3A – that should be familiar. Let’s set it up and import some content from the old Google+ Community – which has now been imported into this site (hurrah!!!!).
Your mission (should you choose to accept it) … create a website in WordPress for four weeks time!